Matt Marshall 

Second hello Hello JXT family out there and welcome to the podcast Genex talking on being prepared. 

Matt Marshall 

I'll start with a story. 

Matt Marshall 

You've heard and seen the news broadcast. 

Matt Marshall 

You've spotted the social media posts. And finally, you've received the alerts on your phone. The storm is. 

Matt Marshall 

Coming because you're pretty forward thinking person, you got your few days of water and and food. Set aside downstairs just like any other storm. 

Matt Marshall 

Heck, you've even got storm Windows ready. If the winds really do get to those hurricane speeds they're talking about and then comes the knock on the door, the police. 

Matt Marshall 

Arrive with some volunteers expressing great urgency that the town is evacuating now and you've got less than 30 minutes to get your stuff together. One bag per person. You need to evacuate. 

Matt Marshall 

Well, we couldn't start this podcast adventure without first touching on one of the most important aspects of being prepared. And today we're talking about the infamous bug out bag. 

Ed Wasson 

The bug out bag. 

Matt Marshall 

Oh yeah, I'm not Marshall. Overall preparedness enthusiasts and I'm here to remind us with preparedness comes comfort with preparedness. Comes peace, something we could all use a bit more of. 

Ed Wasson 

And I'm Ed Watson AKA Wilksie, and I'm more than just along for the ride. 

Matt Marshall 

Right on man. 

Matt Marshall 

Well, as mentioned the the main topic of the show is to discuss the bug out bag, but I think it's best we start by describing the different types of bags that are available. 

Matt Marshall 

You know there's you, you hear about it. The bug out bags. There's if you listen to any preparedness or prepping, or or. 

Matt Marshall 

Survival type of shows and such. You might also hear the term go bag or everyday carry get home safe. 

Matt Marshall 

And then in the military world it's it's often referred to as a loadout. So Ed, do you have any comments or any? Any thoughts on just those? Those basic concepts? 

Ed Wasson 

You just gotta keep in mind that everywhere you go, somebody is going to call it something different. So you just gotta picture in your mind what your purpose of it is and whatever you end up calling it. 

Ed Wasson 

That's the bag you know. You don't have a bag for this and a bag for that, and that can be your dissent. 

Ed Wasson 

That bag? 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, this in that bag, that's a new name. We should call it something we could brand it that this and this in that bag. That sounds like a great idea. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, so like in the military they might have a rucksack. A rucksack is huge and then you have a ***** pack. 

Ed Wasson 

Now you might have a variety of packs in. 

Ed Wasson 

Between those two sizes so. 

Ed Wasson 

Call them whatever you want. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, deal well, they're all just basically term terms you. 

Matt Marshall 

Used to define a bag, a backpack or whatever it might be to carry items for. 

Matt Marshall 

Quickly removing yourself from a potentially dangerous situation. 

Matt Marshall 

If there's an emergent situation like a storm or or whatever type of attack on a town even could be just a pandemic or something like that where you're being asked to evacuate. 

Matt Marshall 

You know one of the things we we don't realize is that the federal government and many state governments they actually they have this authority to come in and not necessarily force people to leave, but make it sound like it's your only option. And when they do, they actually come in. 

Matt Marshall 

And they they they can go all the way down to 15 minutes and basically say you have to be ready to leave in 15 minutes. In fact, if you look it up on the on the FEMA. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, FEMA websites. You'll see, that's one of the things that they talk about quite often. 

Matt Marshall 

In is be ready to leave in 15 minutes. Yeah, so you may think that's crazy talk, but you know, that's that's something that most OEM's the offices of Emergency Management. 

Matt Marshall 

Whether it's like County University, states, corporate, whatever it may be, that's exactly the case. They they tell you you need to be prepared to leave so. 

Matt Marshall 

Not that we as as. 

Matt Marshall 

American citizens have to live by that rule necessarily. 

Ed Wasson 

No no. 

Matt Marshall 

But we should all be prepared if we feel the need to evacuate from our our survival area, our home. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, and that's what it's more like for me, meant that I for me it's more like if you if and when you want to leave or you feel like you have to leave. 

Matt Marshall 

If we feel. 

Ed Wasson 

You have 15 minutes or so. Grab your stuff. Let's go. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah absolutely absolutely. I love how these how these movies start to they try to portray it as if it's the government. 

Matt Marshall 

And the government says. 

Matt Marshall 

You have to do something and well, you just have to. That's not the way it is in the United States. 

Matt Marshall 

Now in some countries, some other countries that that likely is the way it is, or they lock you in when they say lockdown. 

Matt Marshall 

That means you are locked down and you are forbidden to leave your homes, whatever it may be, right? 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, it it was strictly enforced in. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, that's just that's just crazy. So so the bug out bag is 11 concept and that's the that's something to have ready. 

Matt Marshall 

For you and and one of the things that's important is you can also separate the difference between. 

Matt Marshall 

Items that could be used for survival. 

Matt Marshall 

And the period of time. Generally it's about three to five days that you that you need that survival gear and buy survival. 

Matt Marshall 

We'll talk about this a little bit later in the show, but survival we're talking about food, water fundamentals. You might need to survive some other things that might come into play. As you know, shelter or medical. 

Matt Marshall 

Security, depending on how security minded you are, whether you have the legal right to carry a firearm in your area of your locale. 

Ed Wasson 

Yep, sure. 

Matt Marshall 

So what are your? What are your thoughts on just the basics of what a bug out bag is for? 

Ed Wasson 

Well, like we mentioned previously, mine has just enough water for probably two days. A couple of cans of beans and. 

Ed Wasson 

Granola bars, stuff like that eyedrops Tylenol. 

Ed Wasson 

And we can be grab that bag. 

Ed Wasson 

And we can get out and and. 

Ed Wasson 

Head out to a lake or a river or something like that. We can camp out off the side of the road. 

Ed Wasson 

We can be in the truck. We can get away from the check truck. Whatever we've got to do and I've got just enough stuff in there. Plus I'm in Texas so I do have carry now. 

Ed Wasson 

You know I don't have a CCL here. Whatever you want to call it. 

Ed Wasson 

A concealed permit, concealed carry permit, or concealed carry license, whatever they call it in different states. 

Ed Wasson 

You don't necessarily actually need it here in in Texas. You also don't need it in several other states. You can carry either in the open and your vehicle is an extension of your house, your campground, your campsite, your tent. 

Ed Wasson 

Things like that are also an extension of your house, and you in certain states like the states I'm in, you can defend those houses and don't have to reach. 

Ed Wasson 

Treat so I've always got carried with me as well. I just don't have it concealed. Loaded on my person, so that's that's the rules that I stayed by. 

Ed Wasson 

But I've always got something like that as well. And let's say anytime in about 15 minutes or so I'll mission I and scout. We can get out now. Now the consideration is. 

Ed Wasson 

The cat, now we've got a cat and she doesn't like to be put in a cage. 

Ed Wasson 

Or a carrier and she doesn't like to be in a vehicle, so she's not kind of really filled out, like maybe three to four days of food for her and she's going to be on her own and we've already taken, you know, made the reconciliation in our head. 

Ed Wasson 

But if it's longer than that, and you know it is what it is, if she'll she might have to go outside. 

Ed Wasson 

Or or whatever, but she's gonna basically be on her own and worse comes worse. We come back a month or two later and we might not. 

Ed Wasson 

I have a cat. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, yeah, no, I it's. It's interesting. I think it it we've talked about this before about possibly having a a show all in itself. 

Matt Marshall 

Now it might not be a you know, an hour long show per say, but a show all in itself related to pets and how you prepare for pets. Because different people we somehow I don't know how this happened, but. 

Matt Marshall 

We just we just came across a rat. 

Matt Marshall 

It it and it's. 

Matt Marshall 

The craziest thing we come back from a lake trip and the night I'm unloading. All you know the paddle boards and the kayaks and all this stuff from the from the truck and there's this, this white and it's at night. 

Matt Marshall 

This white and black thing laying out in the yard and I'm like what is that this was. It was a little black. 

Matt Marshall 

And white rabbit. And when I stepped around the corner, it didn't run. It was just laying there and I thought maybe it's dead or something. Maybe a fox got it. 

Matt Marshall 

And and it you know, started hopping around just a little bit and I went in and I got. I got Kristen and and my daughter and we walked outside and they walked right up to it and started petting it. 

Matt Marshall 

And they're like, Oh my gosh. And so now we found out where where it came from next door and they don't want it anymore. So now we are a. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, thank you. 

Matt Marshall 

Rabbit owning family. 

Ed Wasson 

Now you got. 

Matt Marshall 

A rabbit, and but that my point is, we've got dogs. We've got cats. We've got rabbits. 

Matt Marshall 

Uh, we've got animals too, and there's a lot there's there's a lot of emotion that goes on around around having animals, of course. 

Ed Wasson 

Randall told good news. 

Matt Marshall 

But the reality is, they are animals, and there's this point at time. You have to come to where? 

Matt Marshall 

You know, unfortunately, you got to choose. You may have to choose between caring for your family and caring for the other portion of your family. And some sometimes tough decisions have to be made, yeah. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, and all I think honestly, my experience, even little kids understand if it's really an emergency. 

Ed Wasson 

Fluffy ain't coming with us. 

Ed Wasson 

And Yep, they're not. I mean, they're sad, but it's usually not something you have to. 

Ed Wasson 

Really have some sort of services for in your family afterwards, yeah, but even the kids. They're sad, but they're not like. 

Ed Wasson 

They're not torn apart because are torn up because, yeah, Fluffy couldn't make it. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah yeah too. Too bad. 

Matt Marshall 

It's it's interesting. Our cats both. Both of our cats are our indoor outdoor cats. Yeah, and that's actually if you. 

Matt Marshall 

If you go to our vet they say no, no no. You can't let the cat outside. And it's true there are. There are Hawks. There's Eagles around. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, right? 

Speaker 2 

Right? 

Matt Marshall 

Here and those suckers will come down and just take that cat right up and off. They go and they're gone. 

Matt Marshall 

But our our cats are really good at defending themselves and we've we we actually came home one Christmas and and we were out on a on a. It was actually Christmas Eve dinner. We came back and the cats come running in with this. 

Matt Marshall 

Little bird and just dropped it right in front of us. 

Matt Marshall 

Hey, we're giving you a Christmas gift. 

Matt Marshall 

Yay, you get a dead so. 

Ed Wasson 

Now we've got Bobcats. 

Matt Marshall 

So these cats take care of themselves. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, we've got Bobcats out here and they're not. 

Ed Wasson 

Uhm, like the high desert short, Squatty, stocky little Bobcats that you tend to avoid out there, they're a bigger, longer leaner. 

Ed Wasson 

Cat, it looks like a very big tabby kind of cat. One of those exotic lynx kind of domestic cats, but you can tell it's not one of those and they were around here. 

Ed Wasson 

All the time, catching rabbits and and they do. 

Ed Wasson 

We go out and scoop up some cats once in a while, but we catch him like right out in our in front yards and one came around the the backyard fences and was scaring Kelly and Kelly started. 

Ed Wasson 

Scout runs out. We would run out and there's a there's a bobcat right on. 

Ed Wasson 

The fence so. 

Matt Marshall 

Holy cow. 

Ed Wasson 

Starts scooting off and and those are some cool cats 'cause they're like. 

Ed Wasson 

It's right, I'm a cool cat. I'm just leaving now, alright. 

Ed Wasson 

You got it, you guys busted me this time. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, this time I'll guess your stat next time I'm coming back for you, cat. 

Ed Wasson 

This time. 

Speaker 2 

That's right, that's right. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, right, right? 

Speaker 1 

Second, all. 

Matt Marshall 

All right, so so Next up is the everyday carry and and and basically it may seem weird for those manly men out there. 

Matt Marshall 

But think of this like a ***** pack right every day. It's it's often that size and structure. In fact, one of the one of the famous. 

Matt Marshall 

And the main fighters guy. I follow all the time. Tim Kennedy. He actually has a whole program down there and your your neck of the woods actually called sheepdog response. 

Ed Wasson 

Yes, Sir. 

Matt Marshall 

And they just they just released their own branded eat every day, carry little little ***** pack. And I'm not a ***** pack fan so I don't. 

Matt Marshall 

I don't typically carry that, but it does. Everyday carry doesn't have to be a ***** pack per southeast. It could represent something as simple as a collection of items to keep on yourself. 

Matt Marshall 

Uhm, for most everyday outings, right? 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah in it. 

Matt Marshall 

If you if you carry a knife, if you carry a little bit of medical supplies, they're one of the most famous things that you see from historically was that little tin can survival. 

Yeah, I understand. 

Matt Marshall 

Well, it's got some little snares in there. It's got some fishing hooks firestarter, things like that. Very cool little item that you can just. 

Matt Marshall 

Throw in a pocket somewhere, right? And it's something you can carry with you all the time anytime no matter where you. 

Speaker 1 

But the. 

Matt Marshall 

You go, you start getting into things like firearms and knives. There's like then there's all that those are the real manly man things. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah my arms. 

Matt Marshall 

But there are also the things that that can cause you to risk in my little slice of eastern seaboard. 

Matt Marshall 

Where I could actually get arrested for carrying something like that? If I'm, you know, if I'm not careful, So what are your what are your thoughts on everyday care? 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, sure. 

Ed Wasson 

Well, it's interesting. You should point out you know, like ***** packs and ***** packs kinda soared in some communities. 

Ed Wasson 

Got really big and like Europeans and stuff. The men love them and you could have the pouch forward. You can have the pouch back. You could have the patch on the sign. Yeah I mean well that they're wearing Capri. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, but that's the Europeans add. That's the Europeans. 

Ed Wasson 

Knee length tight shorts as well, so that's not my style so however so however. 

Ed Wasson 

In America America, we do have our own America. We have our own style and our style looks rugged and cool, and one of the things I've got is kind of sort of an American man ***** pack and it's a bandolier. 

Ed Wasson 

What it is is a bandolier that goes across this way and you got your zipper. You got your zipper for your main cargo pocket here. 

Matt Marshall 

Oh yeah, yeah man. 

Ed Wasson 

Sure, and it's actually bigger than a regular ***** pack goes over your shoulder. It's easier to carry it. You can actually throw it over any side you've got a couple of extra pouches here in there. 

Ed Wasson 

It's amazing how much stuff you can put in that. I originally got mine for, well, the first one I got was. 

Ed Wasson 

For fishing gear, but the second one I've got is, you know, I do photography so I had a couple of extra lenses in there so I have like a couple of cameras here. So I've got like my. 

Ed Wasson 

Pistol pistol arrows here. 

Ed Wasson 

So I've got my cameras here on each side on a harness, so I look like almost like Chuck Norris with those Uzis. 

Ed Wasson 

But I've got cameras and I've got this bandolier with extra flake, not magazines of ammo but extra. Yeah, extra lenses and flash and and extra batteries and stuff like that 'cause you always have to be prepared on a photo shoot. Well if I'm not on that photo shoot, I've stopped using that. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, yeah. 

Ed Wasson 

Bag for. 

Ed Wasson 

Photo shoots because I've got even more gear. I have a larger backpack for all that and now I use that bandolier for an everyday type of thing and. 

Ed Wasson 

It's full of things. 

Ed Wasson 

Yes, most things that it's not always with me like 24/7, but it's either in the house or in the car and it's not very far away all the time. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, one of the one of the things I was reading recently is everyday carry essentials. Prepare you for the worst and empower you to do your best. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, I thought that was just such a cool a cool little saying but but basically we can think of it as what you might need on a daily basis. Keep it really, really simple. Start being better. 

Matt Marshall 

Prepared right away. Just have a little everyday carry bag right? 

Matt Marshall 

So do that while you're building your bug out bag. 

Matt Marshall 

The next one, which is called a get home bag or get Home safe kit, get this one. There's a. There's another another guy that I follow that I've that I've watched for a while. 

I know. 

Matt Marshall 

Fieldcraft survival on YouTube really good guy Mark Mark Glover I think is his name. 

Yeah, yeah, I've seen it. 

Matt Marshall 

Awesome dude, but one of the one of the interesting things that he says is and actually there's a. There's another one as well. 

Matt Marshall 

They they have these. They have these ways that they approach survival and preparedness and creating a bug out bag. And it's not so much. 

Matt Marshall 

Get out, it's get home everything to them because they they have built their home as a a haven and a survival place. 

Matt Marshall 

You know, it's like there, it's there. The place where they would go to be safe, you never leave home. 

Matt Marshall 

To to try to go be safe. 

Matt Marshall 

Right and so so everything they do when it comes to their loadout and like for instance, if they were, they're getting ready to go out and do something to add into their truck. That's all about how if I were somewhere away from home, how do I get back to home? 

Ed Wasson 

Right, right? 

Matt Marshall 

And so. 

Matt Marshall 

Their get home safe kits are not backpacks per southeast. They're duffel bags and there's this one really cool one that I saw. I saw one of the guys go through. 

Matt Marshall 

It's even got a, you know, a nice a nice slide pouch on the inside that's that's padded and you can if you've got a folding stock on your AR15, you fold that stock in you slide it in and it and it fits perfectly and it nobody even knows that it exists. 

Matt Marshall 

And there that it's in that bag. It's you know how often times if it's in a particular bag, you might see the the. 

Ed Wasson 

The barrel 

Matt Marshall 

The barrel sticking up out of there, or you may see you know the what looks like the shape of a gun inside of your inside of your bag. 

Matt Marshall 

With this bag you never worry about that, you just slide it in. Nobody ever sees it. It's awesome, it's awesome anyways. And then and then he you know he goes through and shows a whole bunch of other things. 

Ed Wasson 

Slide it in, Yep. 

Matt Marshall 

But and then the other thing, of course, is it. 

Matt Marshall 

The straps the shoulder straps. 

Ed Wasson 

Quite sure helmets harnesses jacket. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, it has the shoulder straps that that are tucked into the bag normally so you carry it normally like a duffel bag but but then you can pop out these shoulder pads and you can strap those shoulder pads and and do a walk so it's excellent excellent alternative too. 

Ed Wasson 

Right? 

Speaker 2 

Right? 

Matt Marshall 

If the authorities come and tell you to get away from home, you say no, no, I'm good here. Yeah, I'm I'm prepared right? 

Ed Wasson 

Yep, Yep. 

Matt Marshall 

So any any thoughts on a A get home bag? 

Ed Wasson 

Well, that's not so much. 

Ed Wasson 

On a get home bag but. 

Ed Wasson 

Some of your get home options and I learned this from actually reading the news about military operations in Iraq. 

Ed Wasson 

While I was just before I went to Iraq again, froio F. And all this interact some of the. 

Ed Wasson 

Military contractors out there. Of course that they're operating in vehicles that are typically using run flat type tires, but you still can only go so far on run flat tires. At any rate, their teams are trained to pop out real quick. 

Speaker 1 

Right? 

Ed Wasson 

As if they, if they've got to get off the side of the road for any reason, it what I want to apply this to is a civilian getting a flat tire. 

Matt Marshall 

Right? 

Ed Wasson 

Your mission is to get home. You might have a get home bag or some type of kit in your vehicle, but one of the main things you want to always continually mentally prep yourself for for the get home mission is any type of vehicle breakdown or a flat or anything like that. Because it's interesting mission. 

Ed Wasson 

I observed this in the Dallas area a lot because if you go South Dallas the streets are messed up a little bit more and you find like the middle class type people using middle class vehicles and they get in a little bit of a Fender Bender. 

Ed Wasson 

Or they get in a flat tire and they fix things right there and then they get back usually on the road, and there's not that much of a back up on the north side of the town. You have upper middle class and and richer hurt people and a lot of them are driving Porsches. 

Ed Wasson 

Audis Mercedes-Benz BMW's things like this and these are the kind of people when you gotta back up on one of the main roads in North Dallas. 

Ed Wasson 

And you see, there's a car off the side of the road and it's one of those richer type of cars or more. 

Ed Wasson 

You know it's a car for the more wealthy. There's a lot of people up in this area that are into posturing and stuff like that socially and not judging them or anything. I'm just saying when you see him in there off the side of the road. 

Ed Wasson 

Nothing happened, they they're off the side of the road that they didn't get in a Fender Bender. They don't have a flat tire and they're causing a little bit of back up and you're wondering what happened. If almost every time you look. 

These are the. 

Ed Wasson 

Kind of people that actually run out of gas. 

Ed Wasson 

Now we're talking like people that probably have a masters degree or pH. D in robotics or something like that and they can't ensure that their vehicle is filled up. 

Matt Marshall 

Right? 

Ed Wasson 

Or they get a flat tire and they have to. 

Ed Wasson 

Call for a tow truck or something like that, so that's the kind of people that we have to deal with without. 

Ed Wasson 

Here's the IT. It reiterates to me that for the Git whole mission, you need to be, you need to be prepared. 

Ed Wasson 

Have that vehicle fueled up and if if you get a flat you need to make sure you've got all the equipment. 

Ed Wasson 

In there to change it, do you have a spear? Is it? Is it a full size spare or is? 

Ed Wasson 

It a donut. 

Matt Marshall 

Not donut, right, right? 

Ed Wasson 

Do you have all of the equipment you need? Do you need a little bit of a Jack? Do you have all those Jack Jacks or do you got those little crank jacks and you gotta sit there whole? But anyway, you should be able to. 

Ed Wasson 

If you don't, if you run out of fuel and I'm not saying that you have to do this for all urban environments, not this isn't very practical at all, but you should have if you're out in the country especially you should have it actually about a 5 gallon spare can of gasoline. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, yeah, that's add somewhere. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, and and you should have a full sized sphere and you should make sure you have all your equipment. Do you have jumper cables? 

Matt Marshall 

Right, right? 

Ed Wasson 

Hey what what if you're with somebody else and you're going to be traveling in tandem but they've got a postcard and they break down and it's just. 

Ed Wasson 

Just the battery or whatever after you stop somewhere and then they can't start again. Do you have jumper cables? 

Ed Wasson 

I don't know how many times up here in the north North Dallas area I've either just with a regular truck. 

Ed Wasson 

I've helped people get out of the mud. I've pulled people off here and there, or I've given him a jump whatever, it's two or three times a year. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, interesting you should. You should say that because you know one of the. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, I, I think we'll also probably have a show soon on financial preparedness. Yeah, but we we have followed Dave Ramsey for years and and implemented his his rules, and he has us saying it's live like no one else now so that you could live like no one else later so that you can. 

Matt Marshall 

Give like no one else later, and being prepared allows you. 

Matt Marshall 

You to be comfortable during difficult times and if there is somebody on the side of the road who's struggling or whatever it may be, you can assist you think it's silliness to carry a can of gas but and and in some again some parts of the country. You can't carry more than a gallon, right, right, but. 

Speaker 2 

Right? 

Matt Marshall 

You think it might be silly, but if you just right up alongside someone like that and say, yeah, sure I've got. I've got a gallon of gas here or something like that. I can help you out no problem. 

Matt Marshall 

Or or they need a jump or whatever it may be. There's another thing to your to your point about jumper cables. 

Matt Marshall 

There's actually a little a lot being sold on Amazon these days. Of those little battery packs that you can that you can just. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, yeah. 

Matt Marshall 

As long as it's charged you you all you have to do is plug it onto your battery, turn it on, start your car perfect. 

Matt Marshall 

My wife happened to be sitting waiting for one of her clients and she sat just a little bit too long. 

Matt Marshall 

And and the car wouldn't start. So she pulled that thing out of the out of the back end, plugged it in, started up like a champ, so it's so it's great that they laughed. 

Ed Wasson 

Awesome cool. 

Ed Wasson 

Now Rant, Ramsey School to Ramsey. 

Matt Marshall 

He's he's awesome, awesome. 

Ed Wasson 

He's got a lot of good things to say. 

Matt Marshall 

The last thing I would say is on the on the gas topic running running out of gas I've been. 

Matt Marshall 

So I've got. 

Matt Marshall 

I've got a A, uh, 2029 year old now or 21 eight somewhere around there 21 year old and and just turned 18 and the two younger are still still living at at home here because it's very very expensive to try to get out out on your own here. Yeah, but one of the things I've been trying to train. 

Ed Wasson 

No no. 

Matt Marshall 

Them is. 

Matt Marshall 

Don't let your gas tank get below a half a tank, you know it's one of those things that when I was in college, I would let it run down. 

Matt Marshall 

I actually had a friend who used to. He would only put like $2.00 of gas in his car at any point in time, so it was because he only lived like 2 miles. 

Matt Marshall 

From the from the you know where he worked and where he went to school and. 

Matt Marshall 

All this. 

Matt Marshall 

And and so I kind of lived by that too. I was like, yeah, OK. I've got a couple extra bucks. I'll put some some dollars into gas 'cause I didn't really use the car all that much. 

Matt Marshall 

And but now I'm just like duck on it. If you just don't let it get below half, then you never even have a a question that you're ever going to run out. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, even if you get stuck in four hours of traffic, you still got enough. You know enough enough gas in the car. 

Speaker 1 

Right? 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, and and if you if you. 

Ed Wasson 

Run out of gas and you have to walk, let's say a mile to get to a gas station. 

Ed Wasson 

Always remember always please. For the love of God, remember. 

Matt Marshall 

Look for God. 

Ed Wasson 

That Styrofoam cup that you got from Sonic. 

He gotta make it. 

Matt Marshall 

He's gonna care not gonna carry gas. 

Ed Wasson 

Yes, I've seen it happen, obviously. 

Matt Marshall 

What happened? Yeah, it tends to disintegrate. 

I was like. 

Ed Wasson 

Awesome. Do that again. Let me find another Styrofoam cup. Let's see if it'll work that time. 

Matt Marshall 

Oh man, well maybe that's something that that people can learn from Tik T.O.K. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, I'm sure. 

Ed Wasson 

Let's look it up on Tik T.O.K. Hang on right now I'm. I'm addicted to Tik T.O.K. 

Ed Wasson 

Look it up now. Styrofoam cook, gassing the 7th. 

Where else where? 

Matt Marshall 

Else you gonna learn about it. 

Ed Wasson 

While they're dancing in a fake dinosaur costume. 

Matt Marshall 

I'm gonna spray gas in the Styrofoam cup. See what? 

Speaker 1 

America America yeah? 

Matt Marshall 

OK. 

Matt Marshall 

So the the the last thing I was I was thinking about is there is a term that's thrown around a lot and and. 

Ed Wasson 

That's socialist. 

Matt Marshall 

No, another term called loadout. 

Ed Wasson 

Oh load up. 

Matt Marshall 

So list, yeah. 

Matt Marshall 

Anyways, that this term loadout, it's actually the the other thing that I noticed as you start kind of digging in a little bit into the survival and the prepper communities and things like maybe go into gun shows, things like that. 

Matt Marshall 

I I don't want to again, don't want to offend any any folks out there, but there are some wannabes. 

Matt Marshall 

That that and forever I was probably a wannabe prepper, you know. 

Ed Wasson 

I still. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, well, but I guess my the reason I'm bringing it up is they'll start throwing around these terms like loadout and have no idea what it actually means. So I was wondering from your perspective you've been in the military. 

Matt Marshall 

Served a long time there and and I'm just wondering what do you consider the definition of loadout? 

Ed Wasson 

Well, for me I never used that term a lot in the military, but. 

Ed Wasson 

You know you're going to go on different things, like if you're with the marine infantry unit, they're very light. 

Ed Wasson 

If you go with an airborne unit, they usually pack pretty heavy and they're supposed to be Light Infantry I think, but yeah, you do an airborne operation and you're in full combat gear and they've got. 

Ed Wasson 

You know 45 pounds in one of those new backpacks that they've got and that you know eventually they'll drop that off and they hit the ground and and, you know, grab their chutes and and do that kind of stuff, but. 

Ed Wasson 

But generally when you say loadout, I'm thinking you've packed it. It's been changing in the military over the years because nowadays the troops are getting three to five full duffel bags full of gear. So when I hear loadout, I'm like, yeah. 

Ed Wasson 

Four or five bags. Duffel bags full of gear boots. 

Ed Wasson 

Because it's a business, of course, so they're giving you extra boots, extra uniforms, extra globes, extra goggles. You've got your helmet, the Air Force calls it pro gear. 

Ed Wasson 

Last time I heard to you you got all this gear that you've got and you're loading out for a major deployment. 

Ed Wasson 

So that's what I think of when you say load out, but. 

Ed Wasson 

Uh, you know if you're going through air assault school or. 

Ed Wasson 

Or any other type of Light Infantry school Rangers or marine infantry or something like that loadout could just be about £5565 of gear to last you out to a week or so while you go hike 15 miles somewhere up in the hills or in the forest somewhere. 

Ed Wasson 

You're going to pitch shelter hats in a certain area and for a week or so you're just going to start running patrols. You run in raids, ambushes, or counter ambushes. 

Ed Wasson 

You might get picked up in a helicopter or so. 

Ed Wasson 

Point and grab some of your gear. You're going to go do an airfield seizure or forward air refueling, perimeter, or anything else like that. 

Ed Wasson 

So to me a load out bag can be you're loading out everything you need for that mission at that time, and it can be a week or two. 

Ed Wasson 

At a time. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah yeah, OK, yeah yeah, it's exactly so now you being more military background, would you ever get offended if a if a prepper wannabe came to you and said, here's what's in my loadout? 

Ed Wasson 

So that's that's just me, personally. 

Ed Wasson 

Well, no, absolutely not. And that's what people gotta try to remember as as as you're prepping and different people are going to be in different stages of prepping themselves. 

Matt Marshall 

Uh, yeah. 

Ed Wasson 

And and like. 

Ed Wasson 

That you can be a not leak. I consider myself. Overall you can consider myself. 

Ed Wasson 

A novice 'cause there's some serious preppers out there, they're we're not talking about, like prepping to. 

Matt Marshall 

Oh yeah. 

Ed Wasson 

To hold out for a few days away from the house or something like that, we're talking like we've fortified our house and we've got a 55 gallon capacity professional grade water filter. We've got tons of water stored. We've got tons of food stored. Yep. 

Ed Wasson 

We've got an underground basement where we've we've got agricultural equipment to grow, grow plants. 

Ed Wasson 

Then we've got wildlife out there. We got a stream coming through our basement and we can go trout fishing. 

Ed Wasson 

They these guys, they've got a Netflix series on whatever called preppers and these guys are like I don't know if they call them Peppers or doomsday preppers, but they've got like a serious fortification and they've got a chunk of land and. 

Ed Wasson 

They've got solar panels for collecting the electricity, and they go right down a list and they get graded by these other guys. And these guys go in there and like well. 

Ed Wasson 

You don't have enough solar panels, so you're only going to be able to collect this much electrical capacity. Now those are those are preppers of a different echelon. 

Ed Wasson 

But like if you're if you're like squabbling over if a. 

Ed Wasson 

A beginner or novice prepper came up to you. Your law enforcement or military and they said hey, this is what's in my loadout bag by the copper electric that's going to be a cool bit. 

Ed Wasson 

'cause different grades at the military do different things too. 'cause everybody knows Marine Corps infantry is light. Everybody feels sorry for them because they only have so much gear. Everybody knows that like the seal teams and special forces guys got more gear than God. 

Ed Wasson 

Air Force crews. They go in there with five duffel bags of pro gear. 

Ed Wasson 

Every every two months you get issued a new pair of boots nowadays, so you know you got all this gear and and they you go into the PX and the military PX is these days have a whole rack of stuff that's all Rambo gear and. 

Matt Marshall 

Oh my goodness. 

Ed Wasson 

All of the newer. 

Ed Wasson 

Troops by all that stuff, whether they're they just got out of Ranger School and they're getting Ranger beads. But make sure you get your Ranger beads that are that are designed like the shape of a little skull. 

Ed Wasson 

'cause that makes it look like you're. You're like mean like you're a killer. So you got your little skull shaped Ranger beads. 

Ed Wasson 

I have somebody. 

OK. 

Ed Wasson 

Just in case I forget my, you know I know my pace counsel yeah 100. 

Ed Wasson 

108 paces for me is. 

Ed Wasson 

Is you know that's that's what my pace count is. So I slide one of my ten counts down and there's a 10th of a mile. 

Alright, there's alright so. 

Ed Wasson 

Alright, we've hiked. We've hiked 400 feet guys. 

Ed Wasson 

Just kidding, but now, whatever, whatever you, if you've got a bandolier and you've got some stuff in there and I had. 

Matt Marshall 

No, that's that's good stuff. 

Ed Wasson 

Some stuff to show, but I mean. 

Ed Wasson 

We've got I've got. 

Ed Wasson 

Different levels of flashlights. Oh, look at look at my flashlight, wow. 

Ed Wasson 

So my flashlight it. I'm a ball caught my flashlight is I'm really a movement. 

Matt Marshall 

So this is. 

Ed Wasson 

There we go. 

Matt Marshall 

This is what this is. What's interesting and you hit the nail on the head because you could have. 

Matt Marshall 

You could have. 

Ed Wasson 

Right here in the house. 

Matt Marshall 

You could have this this ultra echelon prepare prepper doomsday prepper where they have they have built their whole lives around this topic right? 

Ed Wasson 

Spend a lot of money too. 

Matt Marshall 

A lot of money or. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, and it's cool. It's cool, no more no problem. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah yeah I would. I would honor somebody like that and just say wow, you have spent a lot of money and you've become so prepared. You're well beyond. 

Speaker 1 

Yeah, cool. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, let's have a beer. 

Matt Marshall 

This is one of those. Well they would be made. They would make their own beer, of course, right? 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, they've got a brewery back there, check. 

Speaker 1 

Did he? 

Matt Marshall 

Well, I would hope but anyways, but there's there's a reality to it, and this is another big part that I think we'll get into. 

Matt Marshall 

We've already talked about it a little bit in the in some other episodes, but and that's that's psychological preparedness. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, yeah. 

Matt Marshall 

If you if. 

Matt Marshall 

You're preparing yourself ahead of time and you're you're helping yourself to. 

Matt Marshall 

To respond positively to certain environments and and to the certainly to difficult times. It's so difficult to do, sometimes to to prepare yourself for that. 

Matt Marshall 

But if you can, if you can find it in yourself to do that to respond positively, then just a little bit of. 

Matt Marshall 

Can make you so much more comfortable, so much so much more at peace and and be ready to respond. 

Matt Marshall 

You know to be in a in in a positive way and then build your own brewery after the all the electricity is gone, you know. 

Ed Wasson 

And that that builds your confidence. And most people like to emulate good leaders. And when somebody sees that you've got your stuff together, that you may not have all of your equipment that you need. 

Ed Wasson 

But mentally and psychologically you know, OK well, I need to do ABC and 123 right now. 

Ed Wasson 

And I don't. I only have the equipment to do that, but eventually I need to do D and four. 

Ed Wasson 

And but you're cool, calm and collective because you're. 

ABC by Jackson 5 sure playing on YouTube. 

Ed Wasson 

So my phone is spying on me and and it says I've that it's got something for me about the Jackson 5 playing on YouTube. I don't know where that came up. 

Speaker 1 

Mrs. Smith. 

Matt Marshall 

That's awesome. That's perfect for a Gen X show. 

Ed Wasson 

With that and and. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, and people worry about the CIA spy on on him your your cell phone can't even get it right. They think we're talking about the Jackson 5 on YouTube. 

Ed Wasson 

What I do is I'm saying. 

Ed Wasson 

Coffee you OK, so you you have enough prepared. 

Ed Wasson 

Uh physically materialistic, wise but the most crucial thing is mentally, emotionally psychologically when you're at ease, you're confident it's going to put other people at ease and you're going to establish that. 

Ed Wasson 

Report them early. People are going to be panicking. They're going to be like all of my stuff is wet, but you've got. 

Ed Wasson 

You've got your rain gear with you. Oh my God, that's amazing and you seem so so calm. And so the the one of the best words for it is poised. 

Ed Wasson 

Because you're ready. 

Matt Marshall 

Absolutely, totally ready I. There's a there's a book called The Survivors Club that that my wife turned me on to one of the one of the things he one of the stories he tells about is when when a ship was going down. 

Matt Marshall 

I don't remember the name of the ship, but he was a. He was a guy who who didn't like he was claustrophobic. 

Matt Marshall 

He didn't like closed in spaces, so he actually found a place out on deck on this ship to be to to, you know, to rest and to sleep and. 

Matt Marshall 

And he was out there and there was all this madness happening. Kind of like you, you know, you see in the Titanic movies where you know there's there's. 

Matt Marshall 

People screaming and yelling or whatever it may be, but one at one point in time when the ship was clearly going down it was it was, you know, basically going all these people. 

Matt Marshall 

And they were all sitting there just watching the water rise toward them and he's going. We gotta get out, we gotta get out and he's he's trying to say. 

Matt Marshall 

Wake up. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, yeah. 

Matt Marshall 

And and and they were all. Just they were all just completely frozen. I you know it, it's just a it's a scary topic, but that's exactly what happens to a lot of people. 

Matt Marshall 

Is they? They get to that place. They're not prepared, they're not prepared for any difficult time, and then something happens and there are like sheep. No idea what's what's happening. What they can do. 

Ed Wasson 

Well, yeah. 

Ed Wasson 

That that can actually happen to you even if you are trained and ready, but you you've done the training and you're a little bit ready. But now here's the real thing. 

Ed Wasson 

And so that you've done an exercise or or whatever you've done a little bit of training. 

Ed Wasson 

Uh, you think you're a little bit ready? You've got your materialistic your materialistically, you're OK, but then. 

Ed Wasson 

In real life something happens and it hits the fan. 

Ed Wasson 

It only takes two or three seconds of deer in the headlight type stuff, and you're you're done. You could be killed whatever, and you have just seconds to respond. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, and you either need to get down. You need to move like some of those. 

Ed Wasson 

Mass shooter type scenarios. That there there's actually almost like streaming some of this sometimes, and there was a video that's going on where they're going into some sort of grocery store and you could hear their guys saying, hey, there's a mash this there's a shooter out here. There's people on the ground they, you over there you need to get. 

Ed Wasson 

Down you over there you need to. 

Ed Wasson 

You know, stay in your vehicle. Call for help or whatever. So. 

Ed Wasson 

It sounds at that point like they were ready, but at first they start recording in this, they're like. 

Ed Wasson 

What's going on here? Is there a mass shooting is there is this? Is there a shooting? There's people laying around I hear gunshots in that time right there? 

Ed Wasson 

That that person could have been shot. So yeah, at a certain point of time in their video it sounded like. 

Ed Wasson 

They were cool. 

Ed Wasson 

But the 1st 20 seconds or so. 

Ed Wasson 

They were lost in the sauce, and that that's more than enough time for them to have been a victim. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, that's one of the one of the. 

Matt Marshall 

The survival rules of three right three seconds of reactive psychological reaction time in a in a, you know emergency type of switch situation. Or if somebody is injured and they're bleeding out, you got very. 

Matt Marshall 

Seconds to respond to those you know. 

Ed Wasson 

It's amazing, it's amazing. In America, our culture. Nowadays everybody is ready to pull out their phone in seconds and start video recording something, but what? 

Ed Wasson 

What other follow I mean is, is that first of all, is that something you need to do or I got pulled over by a cop? I need a video of this. I'm coming. I'm coming to a store there I I hear gunshots. 

Matt Marshall 

Right? 

Ed Wasson 

And people are falling. Let me pull out my phone. 

Ed Wasson 

And video disc does that work? 

Matt Marshall 

I'm just going to start right right? 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, is that what you need to do? Or do you need to DD now? 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, right, right? 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, it's it's. It's a pretty weird society that we live in live in today now. There's obviously there's benefits to the technologies that you know. 

Ed Wasson 

God, oh 

Matt Marshall 

That, like you can have a, uh, crowd alert software that tells you that there's something going on, you know? 

Matt Marshall 

Unfortunately, I'm wondering if those are actually telling people that there's an event occurring and therefore they go to that event so that they can recorded on their frigging cameras. You know, insane. 

Ed Wasson 

This is a yeah yeah America like George Carlin used to say. If you're born on planet Earth, you've got a ticket to the circus. If you're born in America, you get a front row seat. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, I've always leaned to that 'cause America, there's like some crazy. I mean, you go almost anywhere in the world and you can see some crazy stuff from time to time. But America is like. 

Matt Marshall 

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Ed Wasson 

It's it's almost like an entertainment centric society like I've got a video of this. I gotta do this right. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah, yeah. 

Ed Wasson 

So there's something going on over there, they. 

Matt Marshall 

Got a video of this, but that that a lot of that comes from the. 

Matt Marshall 

You know the way we respond to that when when somebody puts a post on Instagram or Facebook or Tik T.O.K or whatever, whatever happens and it blows up and it becomes viral. 

Matt Marshall 

Now all of a sudden everybody thinks, well, gosh, viral means dollars. So if I get a million hits then or a million views then I could get $200,000. 

Matt Marshall 

Or whatever it might be, and you're going. 

Matt Marshall 

Holy cow, you know there's there's an absolute disconnect from caring for a person or caring for an event that's occurring and saying this is not right. I shouldn't have my phone and be recording it. I should be stopping it from happening, yeah? 

Matt Marshall 

And trying to help people put on a tourniquet or whatever it may be. Be trained so that I can put a tourniquet on somebody and stop them from bleeding out, you know? 

Ed Wasson 

Now what are you gonna do with that too? Yeah, there's 

Matt Marshall 

Just so many. 

Ed Wasson 

You need to put a tourniquet on this guy and you've run completely out of ideas on how to do it. 

Ed Wasson 

Because you spent two or three seconds earlier before you realized hey this guy is bleeding now and spent two or three seconds earlier in that 3 second rule, trying to figure out, hey, should I should I video this? Should I be calling 911? 

Ed Wasson 

You have too many options. Now you know what the first thing you need to do is evaluate and assist the situation. Once you make that assessment, you need to start taking. 

Ed Wasson 

In the more appropriate actions, and whether that be with with your bandolier type, quick go bag, or if you've got a go bag or or bug out bag or you've got your get home bag in your vehicle. Whatever it is that you're going to use to get you to survive. 

Ed Wasson 

Your main your main mission in certain points, your mission is to survive. 

Matt Marshall 

Absolutely. Absolutely. There's in in the next couple of shows that we're going to have. I think it's going to be important for us to go through the details of. 

Matt Marshall 

How do I start? How do I start building a bug out bag? How do I start being prepared and and establishing the difference? 

Matt Marshall 

What does it mean to be prepared? What does it mean to survive right? And then there's that additional layer of survive and thrive in this in this new world. You know, one of the things that happened during COVID last year. 

Speaker 1 

Right? 

Matt Marshall 

A lot was was using the term the new new normal right to stay. 

Matt Marshall 

Stand out, stand in a line in front of a Sam's Club or a Costco for an hour just to get in and get some toilet paper. That was the new normal for a few months, you know. 

Ed Wasson 

I just I just don't even accept that new normal. I don't even like the term. 

Matt Marshall 

That it's, it's sad to say, but that's what that's what was happening last year a lot. And it's and and. 

Ed Wasson 

Yeah, absolutely. 

Matt Marshall 

And I think that's that's the time that we need to stand up and challenge that. That should not be the new normal. 

Ed Wasson 

Right? 

Matt Marshall 

We should not be in that situation. We being the greatest country in the world should not be sitting here standing in line for an hour waiting for to desperately hope that the 1st 30 people don't get the last roll of toilet paper. 

Ed Wasson 

Right exactly 

Matt Marshall 

You shouldn't be in that situation. 

Ed Wasson 

That goes to. 

Ed Wasson 

A Homeland Security issue that we study called the REDUNDANCE. 

Ed Wasson 

These your infrastructure should have redundancies. If this fails, you know the whole society doesn't collapse, and it's interesting that George W. 

Ed Wasson 

Bush actually brought this up to fouchy. I think it was back in 2007, he says, hey, I've studied this. I understand this this pandemic type situation happens every 100. 

Ed Wasson 

Years and you know this other thing over here happened in 1918 with this Spanish flu. How prepared are we for this and? 

Ed Wasson 

And competing priorities and whatever else happened and it and all that talk got shelved and now here we are. 

Ed Wasson 

When we were in this pandemic and and the government doesn't know at first they said 14 days to flatten the curve, it's been over a year and a half and we're going back through the delta variant and you might have to go back and go get some more toilet paper. 

Ed Wasson 

At at any rate. 

Ed Wasson 

Uh, you know, be prepared. Always be prepared and you're going to get through. Don't accept the new normal and the more prepared you are, the more comfortable you're going to be. 

Ed Wasson 

No matter how much heat gets turned on, because at this point it doesn't look like it's gonna basically let out or relax anytime soon. And if it's not. 

Ed Wasson 

One thing it's another next thing you know. Earlier this year it was Palestinian. Israeli issues. Next, it's going to be Russia and China. 

Speaker 2 

Right? 

Ed Wasson 

You guys need to be prepared because this is just the name of the game is. It's always going to be something that's going to be in your face for some sort of fire sale, hurricanes coming or whatever. 

Ed Wasson 

You have to leave. They make you leave for a few days and it it only ends up raining in your town for a little bit. But you got made to leave. So at any rate. 

Ed Wasson 

To stay compliant you need to be prepared and have your stuff ready to go and. 

Ed Wasson 

You want to do that to be safe anyway. Hey, what if you have to go? 

Speaker 2 

Yeah, yeah. 

Ed Wasson 

And for and for COVID, we're not saying COVID is not real or whatever else. I'm vaccinated. Niche vaccinated so. 

Speaker 1 

Right? 

Ed Wasson 

Now we're just talking about different things and it's going to be different topics and different episodes. But the the bottom line up front for today and also like be prepared, have your stuff together. 

Ed Wasson 

Ensure that you can get to the next phase or step and ensure you can get home and sure you can survive for a few days. 

Matt Marshall 

So the my my parting shot for today's today's show, there's actually, uh, I think the first lesson I would like for people to take away is. 

Matt Marshall 

Start to think. 

Matt Marshall 

About those events that could happen in your area, you know it. There's a. There's a a national risk index that you can that you can look up online and it'll give you a map. 

Matt Marshall 

You can take a look at your state, your region, whatever it might be, and you know down South where where Ed is. 

Matt Marshall 

Heat is huge, you know, can can be a huge problem. Apparently some years freezing can be a big problem. 

Matt Marshall 

Rare, but it can, but and hurricanes can can be problems in in different parts of the country we have. We have an occasional hurricane in in our part of the country, but. 

Matt Marshall 

We also have because we're we're nearer to the nation's capital. We also have some some potential for nuclear or other biological weapon attacks in different areas. 

Matt Marshall 

Just 20 miles up the road we come there were there were riots going on last year and cars are burning and houses are you know CVS pharmacies being destroyed. 

Matt Marshall 

These things happen and then you start thinking of like Ed like you were just talking about the. 

Matt Marshall 

The the potential of other more national and international events start to cause effect on your own personal life. Much more rare that those type of things do cause personal effect on our on our lives but. 

Matt Marshall 

The way the economy is going right now. 

Matt Marshall 

Right, you never know, right. Recession happens. Depression happens. Next thing you know, people are living on the streets and it gets desperate, right? 

Ed Wasson 

Right? 

Matt Marshall 

So there's there's different things we have to we have to watch. We have to remain vigilant. Watch what's happening in our nation in our region, in our state, in our. 

Matt Marshall 

Communities and see and be prepared for those type of events. So the only lesson I would I would ask that people walk away with is take a take a few moments go check out on the website on the the National Risk Index and see in your area. 

Matt Marshall 

What can happen? What are some of the more possible risks? 

Matt Marshall 

Fires hurricanes. 

Matt Marshall 

Economic problems, many different problems that happen nationally and and that's a great place to look it up, because by by doing that we'll come back to the next few shows that we that we start with and you'll see, there's ways that you can change your bug out bags that you can change your home that you can change your community. 

Matt Marshall 

To make you more comfortable and more at peace. 

Ed Wasson 

Let me throw out my parting shot and say. 

Ed Wasson 

The model of the Marine Corps Semper Fidelis, always faithful, but in these types of scenarios that Matt and I are going to talk about pretty frequently. 

Ed Wasson 

Probably I challenge you to say to to stay super Gumby. Always flexible. You stay positive, pragmatic and professional. 

Ed Wasson 

Carry yourself with dignity and treat everybody else with respect. And if you're staying positive and pragmatic and you're trying to actually positively solve problems, everybody is going to respond to that a lot better, and in any kind of emergency situation whether. 

Ed Wasson 

Everybody taking shelter in the Astrodome in Houston or whatever it was called in any other situation. If it's hurricane, no matter what the situation is, and you've got a large crowd of people. If you stay cool, calm, and cool. 

Ed Wasson 

Effective, positive, pragmatic professional. Carry yourself with integrity, treat everybody else with dignity and respect and everything is going to go a lot smoother. 

Ed Wasson 

Always, always stay flexible as well. Be ready to to do whatever you have to do to get yourself and your family through that situation. 

Matt Marshall 

Yeah hey man brother get home safe keep everybody safe that's that's excellent great parting shot thank you for that. 

Matt Marshall 

So I think that's a that's a wrap for today. Thanks for thanks for jumping in and we'll look forward to the next next show. So until next time this is Matt Marshall signing off. 

Ed Wasson 

This is Ed Watson AKA Wilksie. 

Ed Wasson 

Signin off