GXT Interview - Dorie Marshall GXT-I-EP09

Well, hello and welcome back to another great episode of GenXTalkin on being prepared. 

In each show we try to share insights into ways to respond well. 

And recover faster 

Mr. Ed's on a special mission today so he couldn't join in. So in today's episode we have a very special guest. My mom, Dorie Marshall. mom. Welcome to the show.  

So I'd just like to kind of understand a little bit more about you for the audience. 

Can you share just a little bit about? 

Yourself where you're born. 

When where we moved here and there, those type of things. 

Well, I was born in Michigan. 

Lived there for about. 

18 years. 

And had had a first marriage and two children and several activities through that. 

Not all very pleasant, but. 

Thank you. 

Uh, and then I moved to. 

It took the two children who were at that time, I believe, two years old and. 

Uh, three almost four years old. 

So this would have been like like 6364 or somewhere around that time frame, is that right? 

Well, Kathy was born in 62 and Leo was born in 64. 

So right around that time period. 

OK. 

And the odd part about it is. 

I'd never travelled by bus. 

And I had two young children and a young adult. 

Any help? 

A cousin that traveled with me on a Greyhound bus up from Detroit, MI to the United States. 

Now this was. 

To Southern California, is that right? 

Yes, yeah, OK. 

And did you have like a target A? 

Place you were going person. 

You were going to do. 

Yes, my mom and her husband were living in that area and she wanted us to come and have me help her out in the bar. 

She had bought and so that's where I was going. 

The old Red Lion bar. 

Red Lion bar in. 

Red Lion bar in long. 

Beach in Long Beach, CA. 

Yes yes. 

Got it OK. 

So I started working there. 

I work during the day. 

And Mom would come in about midday and and I'd take off for home. 

Now this is so were you 18. 

At that point in. 

Time or were you still? 

Yeah, I was. I was 21. 

I would just give it yeah. 

21 OK. 

But it was. 

It was very interesting. 

Very interesting, I was 21. I was just yeah yeah. 

21 OK. 

But it was. 

It was very interesting. 

Very interesting people. 

Yeah, I I met a lot of people that I really enjoyed being around, but I met a lot of other ones that weren't so crazy. 

Weren't so nice to be around. 

I guess you. 

Get that in. 

A bar, yeah. 

Especially the the later in the day it gets. 

The worse it gets. 

During this time was who was. 

Taking care of the kids, were they? 

But the kids were with my mom during the day and Ellen Ellen was my cousin and she said in when when mom and I weren't available but it it worked out pretty well. 

Uh, so after that? 

At what point time did you meet them? 

I was tending bar and he came in at lunchtime and taught me how. 

To shoot poop. 

OK. 

And I guess we were been together for about about 6-8 months and then little feet came along a third pair of little feet. We got married and he decided that he was gonna go into his active duty. 

What's a Navy? 

That would have been 6768 somewhere around that time frame. 

66 OK, so he went into active duty. 

Did he have to did he? 

Have to go away. 

Oh well, for some period. 

Yes, yes and yes. 

And no, he didn't. 

Actually leave the continent, but he was on active duty on a ship. 

In and out of pork. 

In UM, one was in Long Beach and the other one was in Portway Nini Northern California, oh OK up by Ventura and one was in Long Beach and the other one was in port. 

So he was. 

Me, Northern California. 

Oh up by Ventura and all. 

OK, OK so he was. 

Yeah, right? 

Right so. 

Yeah, he goes on the beach. 

Was basically up up and down the coast. 

Kinda kind of working. 

OK, gotcha gotcha and So what time frames would he be gone? 

Anywhere from just overnight to. 

Two weeks, 2 weeks. 

No, it's OK. 

Yeah, in fact, the one time that he went for a long time, but what felt like a long time to me, but I didn't know at the time what was happening. 

He they got into a skirmish in. 

Be close to Vietnam and all his pals and boats were sent over too. 

To inter intersect with the Pueblo incident, it was a a boat that was commandeered by the dad. 

Would know better. 

Basically the the Pueblo was supposed to be interfering with the people over there. 

At least that was that was what they thought. 

So then so then take me back. 

To your home during that period of time. 

So your home dads doing the naval duties and you've got you and and DD and Ellen helping out at that point in time or is. 

It just you at. 

Home, it's no. 

It's just me and the kids. 

OK yeah, then were you working during that time frame? 

Still no OK. 

Hey, we were we were. 

Ownable housing kind of not too intimate that that you're not working when you're a mother, and especially when you're a single mother. 

Naval housing here. 

Of course, it's always working. 

Uh, but it is interesting to see to hear that there was this this time frame dad was gone and it just reminds me a lot. 

OK. 

You know Kristen and me and my being gone and the work that I did. 

OK, so you're so you're getting into the 60s, Mike. 

Then eventually I come along and and then you get to the 70s and there's all sorts of crazy stuff going on 60s. 

Late 60s, early 70s, straight crazy stuff going on both nationally and internationally. 

Do you think much of that stuff affected you in your home life like any other things like that? 

Obviously, the Vietnam War and the and. 

Yeah, there was a lot of, UM, dissent around with with all the people that were saying this wasn't a war. 

This was massacre and this was all about oil. 

This was all about drugs this. 

Was you know? 

And so there was a lot of that. 

Stuff going on. 

Yeah, and we were all this was all about drugs. 

This was, you know. 

And so there was a lot of that stuff going on, yeah? 

And we were all. 

Involved in it in some way or another, and whether we had our own thoughts about it and we're. 

Uh, willing to talk about it or we had our thoughts about it and kept him hid. 

So that's one of the reasons I'm asking the question is we're kind of in similar situations today with COVID, with elections with, you know, being conservative versus liberal. 

Do you? 

Do you draw any correlation between what was happening back then versus what's happening today or or? 

Do you think it's worse today? 

Better today, easier. 

In one way it feels worse because I'm a lot older and it feels like the time is going a lot faster. 

So I have no control over it and or it doesn't help either. 

Kristen and I have been talking about that recently. 

About how fast. 

Time seems to be going by and we're. 

You know, early 50s, right? 

And so I can imagine it just feels like if the further you get along in. 

Life, the faster time goes by. 

So you're saying there there are some things nationally and internationally that are happening that kind of influence what's going on at home. 

Uhm, do you feel like it was a major influence or just just kind of minimal? 

Made your influence as far as. 

Uhm, seeming to keep things in a turmoil around. 

Around my field of expertise however, uhm, I did. 

Have a great influence because I became a Christian and my many many ways and took me on many, many trails that helped me to understand. 

I don't have to worry about it. 

There's already someone. 

Who's in charge? 

In time period. 

So that that's about the time timeframe. 

That that that your relationship with Christ started to grow or started to to fruition, right? 

Well, it it really got involved when Dad and I got married and. 

I got involved with my mother in law IVA and my father in law and in laws that were all Christians. 

Yeah, and in that Christ life like life things were involving me and getting me on the right track and showing me how. 

Important it was. 

Or involving me and getting me on the right track and showing me how. 

Important was. 

Your starting are starting to. 

Move through into and through the 70s. 

And you know this big recession hits because of massive inflation and low. 

You know, big in unemployment, things like that. 

How did that? 

Affect your day to day life. 

I believe that it. 

We talked about this. 

But the the fact that there were things. 

That influenced our our livelihood that we didn't always have everything. 

Get me there to supply the need. 

If I were to say there was anything, any one thing that would have made me. 

We worry a little bit. 

It would be that we didn't have a health insurance because we were kind of like in between and no insurance with work or anything like that. 

Yeah, OK. 

That was a hard one because I was always worried about somebody falling or somebody getting sick or. 

Meaning the kids. 

Having to go to the hospital or right. 

Yeah, because I did have one episode. 

Well, one of the kids. 

Fell and it was a total accident, silly. 

He was running through the house and took a header into the kitchen and did his face into the table. 

Ended up with a concussion and went to the hospital. 

Was pretty sick and and I was. 

You know, and I was. 

You know, I was not only concerned about how he was doing and how well he would come out. 

I was concerned about how we were going to. 

Take care of this. 

Yeah, have finances. Yeah, absolutely. 

But ultimately you end up in New Mexico, right? 

And so did life change in a significant way. 

Once you moved to to New Mexico. 

We were going through some trauma with older siblings of no other family. 

Drugs and alcohol and being toads. 

And that was a hard time. 

That was a very hard time. 

And then one of them went to live with Dee Dee and my mom and that helped a bit, not only financial situation. 

And then the mental yes. 

Our status in our minds and in our nervousness. 

Now was that. 

Before before we we moved to new. 

No, that's one that's one, whereas we were doing because that was one of the reasons we moved was. 

Mix that was as we were moving in. 

OK. 

To get out of Southern California. 

Yeah, right, right? 

You know the little old drug shack down on the corner at the at the local park? 

That did not help. 

OK, and then so so you end up in New Mexico and and basically you've been here ever since. 

One of the things we often like to start with is is tell us about a bit about how you know each of the hosts. 

Me obviously, you know, but then Ed. 

As well so. 

Care to enlighten the the audience a little bit on? 

How you came to know Ed. 

Ed was a. 

Audience a little bit. 

On how you came to know. 

Ed was a good friend of yours. 

I think it was in. 

The elementary schools. When and. 

That you are. 

Neighbors, friends, whatever else you could think. 

Of that was generally wholesome. 

I I like the term general. 

There we'll talk about that later. 

OK. 

OK, so that's how. 

You how you how you got to know. 

Mr Ed yes. 

One of the things that I truly respect about you is your steadfast faith. 

One of the topics that Ed and I talk about. 

Pretty regularly is not just like physical preparedness or mental preparedness or survival type of discussions, but we also talk about spiritual preparedness. 

But what are some experiences? 

In your life, in your faith. 

Well, the first part of that would have been with my mother in law. 

She wasn't diagnosed with cancer, got through it. 

After a few years. 

And then came back with a vengeance vengeance. 

So we were all involved in helping her through her about with that. 

Her love of the Lord was. 

Very evident when there wasn't anybody there, she was reading the Bible. 

Towards the end it was at the hospital. 

And when you went to visit her, she was. 

Reading the Bible worksheet when you came in and she'd always talked to you about it. 

And always have. 

To pass around and if she wasn't reading the Bible she was crocheting. 

She was in so much pain. 

She used the Bible and crocheting. 

To get her through the day. 

One of the things she did is she she made little beanies for every every one of the kids in the family and each one had a. 

A different initial on its and she made shell things that she gave to each one of the older people in the family to wear and Afghans and she just talked about it and she I think she. 

Talked about life as a Christian as she was doing her her crochet. 

So that was pretty interesting. 

So let me understand this, so would you go to the hospital and sit with her while she is crocheting and? 

Yeah we would. 

Just talk with her. 

We would do that. 

We would do that or be with her at the camp where she was getting her treatments or. 

And we were. 

All taught how to give injections. 

The other part of that? 

Is that? 

My sister in law and brother in law. 

Marie and Diane were very Christ oriented people. 

Just so the audience is aware where is where's Murray most known for. 

He is most known for his musical talents in the Joplin, MO area. 

He was a pastor with the Gospel Lads. 

He was a member of the Gospel. 

Lads for years and years. 

And years. 

And Diane carried him around in his truck. 

In his bus. 

And that was pretty interesting too. 

Yeah, yeah, I still remember listening to some of those. 

Some of the albums, yeah? 

So you had what, two or three? 

Had I had a walk, sort of. 

In that in that field when when I was younger, I had a my mom. 

And her mom were members of the Catholic Church and whenever there was a holiday or a activity. 

She and we were there. 

I was always involved in going with her to mass and and participating that, but the only part of it that bothered me is I never got to have the bread of life because I wasn't a Catholic and everybody get there. 

Little cracker and juice and and I'd go. 

It's yeah. 

Well and here we are. 

Little child sitting in a Pew all by themselves. 

And I think that was one of those yearnings. 

I wanted to know what that was about. 

Right, and every time I turned around I kept saying what is that she'd say about themselves, and I think that was one of those yearnings. 

I wanted to know what that was about. 

Right, and every time I turned around I kept saying well, what is that she'd say? 

That's that's something you're not involved in and but she talked to me about all the Saints and all the you know everything in the church, but that that part of it wasn't something that I could take part in. 

Yeah, so was there a? 

Was there a? 

A point in time in your life where you actually like. 

Gave your gave your life to Christ said I'm I'm in all in. 

Get me baptized or whatever, whatever next steps is there. 

Yeah, there was some. 

When UM, dad and I went to an Easter Sunday morning service over at the ruins, there was a man there, the preacher that was leading the group. 

His name was Williams and he had such a strong ability to draw me in. 

I couldn't tell about anybody else. 

All I knew is well what I was feeling and not too long after that. 

I ended up going to the Methodist Church in Aztec and asking for baptism. 

Would you feel comfortable talking about any times that you may have fallen away from the faith and then maybe some of the things that. 

Brought you back? 

Yeah in the 90s. 

We had some. 

Time period that the family just couldn't stay at church. 

Not because we didn't want to, but because there were. 

Outside sources in the family and and thereabouts that were really and and thereabouts that were too hard. 

To touch on being able to be at the church, I knew I was Christian and I knew that God loved me, but that wasn't a time that I could be there where I probably should have been. 

It's a it's a challenge. 

I mean, that's one of the reasons why it's why I say it happened. 

I feel like it happens to almost everyone. 

You know, whether you're this like ******** Christian where you've got this absolute faith. 

Or whether you're just kind of this holiday, Christians, yeah. 

Or you just go in for the holidays. 

There's I, I everyone goes through that and and has doubt. 

The I I think the one thing that I kind of kind of held me. 

Was that I was able to go to a Saturday morning. 

I guess it would be like a Sunday school without a Sunday school. 

Like a Bible study? 

Yeah, OK. 

Yeah, but that was the only thing. 

And come. 

The other part of that is that there was some problems with law enforcement because. 

I'm your older brother. 

Got into trouble. 

Part of that also was that hazard that he had to. 

He was kicked out of school, and oddly enough, the people that were involved in saying he could go or the school board and green. 

Member of the school board. 

People were members of our church. 

So that was another. 

That could be a challenge. 

Because you know that something was done, that was it was done wrong. 

But how do you classify that within your household with people in your church household? 

This is this is a common challenge that people have with the church at large, and that's. 

Judgment they want people from outside of a family or an organization or whatever wanted. 

You know they're in at church. 

They want to judge those that sin or do something bad. 

Not completely forgetting to look at their own their own situation, their own house, yeah, and it. 

It's a. 

It's a it's a challenge for the church at large, you know. 

I I noticed that. 

Come more so now that the church, even though you know the people are people and they still judge. 

But they're thinking more about. 

We are all sinners and fall short. 

We all sin no matter how hard we try not to saying, I'm not going to church. 

Today, because I don't feel like it. 

Yeah, right, yeah. 

Or pride or whatever the other. 

And some actually say three different recessions because there is. 

There's the 70s which is C debate about. 

A lot about inflation, it seemed a lot about. 

Gas prices and OPEC. 

And you know unemployment and. 

Interest rates going way sky High. All that. Then there was the 80s I guess some period of time during the 80s that that there was some unemployment that also occurred. But then there was the 2008. 

And 2009 time period. 

If you if you were to look at those three time periods. 

And just gauge the three. 

Compare the three. 

So there are. 

I think. 

Three next to each other in your life. 

The first one I think would be a lot of strife with not having real strong financial stability because of the recession because of the lack of jobs or the because of of. 

You know how how things with the pay. 

Or you know that that kind of thing, because we were always worried about whether we were going to lose our. 

House so that one was. 

So back in the 70s was probably the most related to unemployment and housing. 

Yeah, because when we when we got the 7078 

Is when we moved to New Mexico, so that's when Dad didn't have a job and he was. 

I think he was there in New Mexico a month. 

Before was working. 

When he got a job. 

And it was a. 

Good job. 

Yeah yeah, El Paso natural gas yeah I remember yeah. 

And that was awesome. 

And then the next time I think was when. 

I did not know about it until after the fact. 

Out of money tide up in. 

The the stock market. 

Dad would know better how to explain that, but a lot of money that was supposed to be our retirement. 

So would this have been the 2000? 

Eight 2009 timeframe 

No, the the the middle one. 

Oh no, in the 80s, yeah. 

And then. 

That was a loss of everything. 

And the way. 

Dad explained to me. He says well we had $300,000 in paper but now it's all gone so don't worry about it. 

That's always a challenge. 

It really is. 

When you feel. 

It this is one of the Noah. 

Noah is actually experiencing the the plus side of that right now, which is he's. 

Only 2222 years old and he's seeing huge gains in the in the you know the stocks that he's invested in. 

And I'm like what you do. 

You better be careful. 

But you. 

You better be careful. 

The 2000 I I know it was there and I know it was very important, but I wasn't focused on that. I was focused on mom. 

Because she was dying. 

So my my focus was on the physical needs of the elder. 

I know there were other things involved. 

Yeah, The thing is when you're. 

That the 2008, 2009 was somewhat obscure for people because they didn't understand. 

And what that? 

That housing bubble idea? 

I was in. 

I was remembering is that. 

In the government and in the bureaucracy of people who had money that overdid it and lost it or people. 

That they were. 

Investing in lost it and that that was me. 

John, there were other. There were other big parts of it. First of all, we were thinking the 2000. 

Was the. 

The Y2K. 

Yeah yeah, we lead up to that Y2K for at least a year putting these away. 

Joey doing that, storage that. 

It, I mean, it is interesting that that being a you know a computer minded minded and very logical minded person. 

I was the same way I was sitting here thinking to myself. 

Oh my gosh, this is actually could be massive. 

It could be huge, but we better do something. 

Yeah, we had we had. 

Uhm golly, I don't even know how much in the way of barrels of food that were stuck in in the shed and hidden away. 

And barrels water and just to be there. 

Just in case the other thing was having a supply. 

I I've mentioned on the on the podcast multiple Times Now that Y2K was the thing that got me to buy firearms for myself. 

If if you can just imagine and try to play it out in in your mind could happen, you know, security becomes a big. 

A big part. 

Of that, you know that response, so you've got some some interesting lessons here. 

Stock markets are not always. 

Always helpful and it's just paper until you've converted it to real money. 

And so to rely on that is not the best retirement plan, right? 

So that's an important lesson. 

Are there any other lessons that you would take from recession? 

Well, I guess one of the things I I brought from it was I don't ever have enough. 

There's always we always need another. 

Bag of macaroni or rice or gotta have a freezer full to overflowing. 

That can. 

That can be damaging too, because if you always think you don't have enough, then you're you know you can get yourself into trouble in other ways. 

You know, so I I I totally. 

And and yeah, the other thing is never have enough of the things that you want or you like. 

Books that I went through the tubs out front over this past six months and I was ashamed, ashamed, and broken hearted. 

I used to collect dolls and when I came upon 4. 

Bins of dolls that were disintegrated because of the rain. 

You know, thinking they're they're in a plastic bag and then they're being taken care of there. 

They're being taken there. 

What do they tell us about plastic that's been? 

Buried, it lasts for 100 years. 

Oh yeah. 

Right? 

Of course. 

No no. 

They follow. 

They fall apart. 

They do. 

One of the lessons that we always try to get across to the audience when we're talking when it comes to like storing food and saving food four times of need right is to, like you just said earlier, store the things you know you like to. 

If you know you eat macaroni, then you buy an extra thing of macaroni or whatever it may be. 

You eventually get to this point where you've you've bought enough and you shop your pantry. 

Right, so before you go to the grocery store, you go to the. 

Pantry and you go. 

OK, let's see I need. 

I need some macaroni and I need some barbecue sauce and I need some canned meat or whatever you know and you you pull it off the shelf of your pantry and then when you go grocery shopping, all you're doing is you're just restocking the pantry, you know? 

Obviously there are situations, especially if you. 

Tend to you know, cook more fresh food food. 

You know, like. 

You know your your produce and things like that. 

You can't do that. 

You really can't unless you're canning food and things like that. 

But for a number of years I was able to do a little bit of canning and a lot of deep freezing stuff from the the the the garden and doing pre strike and that was very helpful because I had bags of. 

OK, yeah. 

Appreciate food. 

Let's kind of transition back to the trip migration. 

Second, thinking it must have been strange. 

We call it from. 

California to new. 

So there's this big time frame where. 

It all happened. 

To go from, you know a 3 bedroom house on a. 

Relatively nice St Acapulco, relatively nice St Acapulco in California, Santa Ana. 

To a trailer on Ford Street, right up the road here. 

Would you be comfortable? 

Sharing some of the challenges that you had, whether they're they're just Oh my gosh, I gotta now. 

I gotta live in this type of environment or. 

Was it excitement for you? 

And then, like, how did you overcome those? 

It seemed to me to be more a stage in life too. 

Make new things happen. 

Create a possibility of doing one thing where we used to have three things. 

We went from a four bedroom house. 

Off to a well bedroom in a boxcar. 

True, I remember it. 

And we had. 

Two or three in the little room in bum pads. 

Dad looked out well. 

And then we, I guess what we did is we we ended up having Kathy in the little room. 

And the three boys in the big room at the end of the hall and dad and I and Livia. 

But it was all making things work differently. 

Yeah, you know. 

Well and eventually. 

The two older wound up going off to California or just and they were not really around all that much that I that I remember, you know. 

The older yeah, the older they got, yeah. 

Let's talk about food. 

OK. 

OK. 

You and lady are a master of food prep. 

OK. 

Not only for the family, but for big church events and things like that. 

I know that many times you've, you've overseen and and managed the the potluck dinners at the church and all sorts of dips and all sorts of different different events. 

I feel like this is this is part of preparedness. 

Being able to prepare for large numbers of people being fed. 

Right? 

So would you be able to share just a couple of cool secrets on on preparing meals for larger groups of people or organizing those events? 

They'll be prepared. 

When I started out with that I I had had the donut shop and prior to that I was manager of a pizza shop. 

And before that you guys were in school. 

I did a lot of the. 

Uh, PTA program so that kind of led up to a lot of anticipatory activities for those kinds of things. 

When I started over at the church doing a lot of things I I started off with. 

In in my mind I had to have a lot of things for a lot of people, so I had to make sure that there was a lot of food available. 

And it started off with I was trying. 

To make a lot of food. 

I was really trying to make. 

A lot of food, yeah. 

And then I said, well, this is silly. 

I have I. 

I'm supposed to have a committee. 

Yeah, so I started using the committee in very good ways because they were very good people and very helpful people. 

So when you start off well, you start off with getting people who are going to be decorating, getting people who are going to be serving, getting people who are going to be making meat and just have that list of. 

Things down. 

So it becomes a lot more about. 

Organization to start. 

Yeah yeah, organization of how you're going to go about it. 

Remember we used to go to that ice cream parlor at malls used to have parties. 

And, uh, when you, when you were the person that was having the birthday, you got to have the ice cream? 

Bowl or something, right? 

Pig pen it's called the pig pen. 

I remember that it seems massive. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Right, like 13 or 14. 

Scoops of ice cream or something like. 

That yeah, that's crazy. 

Right so I wanna I wanna take us back to one one more place. 

Back back to. 

OK, OK. 

Back to California for Disney. 

Because I wanna I wanna understand a little bit more about. 

What was the decision making? 

That caused you, you and dad to say. 

We're done here in California. 

We're going to move on. 

And then followed up with. 

Do you ever regret leaving California? 

We wanted to get. 

You and Dad to say. 

We're done here in California. 

We're going. 

To move on. 

And then followed up with D ever. 

Regret leaving California. 

We wanted to get kids out of. 

This city. 

That was number one. 

#2 

We didn't have any more money to get. 

To stay there. 

And no job, just stay there. 

And I guess All in all, putting those few things together and saying OK. 

And now for this we gotta get out. 

Of here yeah. 

And I know that there's more. 

More steps we talked about and why we were going to do it and how we were going to do it because there was a lot of things involved. 

We we sold the House. 

And bought a old school bus and it was converted and we far I think that we dove. 

And then whatever we couldn't take along, we put in a storage. 

Shed yeah right? 

That I can't say that there was a lot of. 

Discussion about it in the sense of it was all ahead of time, like preparing for moving your family to Acapulco because it's beautiful. 

There, you know. 

It was it was a half two kind of thing and what we did is we did one of the things we did look at is we looked around to find an area that looked like it was advantageous. 

Job hospital. 

The climate of of how, how many doctors were in the area? 

How many? 

I seem to recall a lack of testing that you guys thought about as well. 

Yes and and and no no earthquakes. 

But yeah, earthquakes in California was was massive. 

Yeah, like how many? 

How many earthquakes can you remember? 

Uhm, 3 major ones that caused major damage and I saw it and I was part of it. 

It it was right in the middle of Santa Ana. 

Oh yeah, UM, and we went out on the front lawn and watched the hogback hogback. 

I think it was called Hogback Mountain in. 

Come Santa Ana off in the distance. 

And we were watching it. 

And and of course, see things falling down and and openings in the ground, and yeah. 

See things falling down and and openings in the ground? 

And yeah. 

I also I think I heard something about gangs or something like that coming into. 

The area is that. 

Was that something? 

Too or no. 

Yeah, I didn't for my. 

Part I think that there were more local individual societies like the Spanish, the, the Vietnamese. 

They they were more localized like that and they were localized. 

In areas. 

Along the highway when we first left there, they were starting to do the local and the drug areas, yeah. 

Because lots of drugs were available for younger kids. 

I would say that. 

When you guys were younger Heritage Park with Heritage Park and the kids got to Go Orchard Park with Heritage Park and the kids got to go and play on the playground and they got to go play. T-ball and. 

You know all kinds of things like that we had. 

Picnics and outings and. 

The last time I remember. 

Going to Heritage Park was to go pick up your sister picking up some drugs at Heritage Park. 

So that that was a big neon sign. 

Yeah, time to yeah try to get. 

Out of dodge, yeah. 

That's when we decided that we needed to. 

We need to do doing it a little more looking at areas that we might go to and there was there was Colorado. 

There was. 

Living in New Mexico. 

There was Utah. 

We looked at a lot of different areas and what was available and so on. 

That's a lot of research. 

Back then, there was no like. 

Just go Google it, you know, look it up on Google and you'll find out thousand things that you didn't really care to know about that area. 

Now it's. 

You know, back then, it would be like placing phone calls and looking at newspapers and libraries and it would have been a lot of. 

A lot more foot foot work. 

So are there any things? 

You regret about. 

About moving out. 

Absolutely anything. 

I think if I would we should all interface. 

It would have been that we had had a more substantial home when we got here. 

And had Dee Dee and John along with us. 

I think that would have probably been need only. 

So I got. 

I have one more. 

Question for you. 

So there was. 

This time you remember it and you. 

Suddenly alluded to it in the beginning and. 

Talking about Ed. 

When a friend of mine. 

And I got into a. 

Bit of trouble with the law. 

And as compensation. 

We both had to work at a school locally cleaning up the schoolyard, and so on for about 64 days. 

Different people tell the story differently. 

The way I remember this story when we went into the school, we did not break Windows. 

We did not break into the school. 

What we did is we saw somebody come out. 

We put a block in the door. 

So that we. 

Could go back into the school I wanted pencils. 

I went in. 

And I took pencils. 

I fully admitted to that to the police. 

But apparently either someone else went in after us or somebody else. 

Uh, caused some damage. 

They filled it, filled a toilet full of six. 

I fully admitted to that to the police. 

But apparently either someone else went in after us or somebody else. 

'cause some damage they filled it filled a toilet full of cigarette buds and flooded a bathroom. 

They 'cause they tore down some some carpet on the walls and things like that. 

So there was some then and then of course they said well, we had to change all the locks because you must have a master key. 

So they said we had to spend X amount of dollars that work that turns into working at you know, prisoner wage. 

You know 120. 

8 hours or whatever it. 

Is so reaching into two of us, so that's. 

OK, that sounds that sounds about right. 

Why that's where the six? 

And some of the days is. 

OK, so you were with me. If I remember correctly, every single morning. 6 AM 5:45 AM till beginning of school and that your will on the the perpetrator, the person that caught you know that was in trouble and tried to like blast out some crazy lesson. 

Or something like. 

That it was more around you were. 

About keeping the relationship with me, I'm sure it was not a pleasant thing to step back a little bit and say this is not about teaching a lesson. 

This is about you need to. 

Keep the relationship because in the. 

Future you may. 

Not have the relationship. 

Yeah, you can't. 

It's it's hard to fix a broken relationship. 

It's better to take the relationship through and keep it healed. 

I mentioned that our beginning step with with faith it was was from dads family. 

That really got me moving and I know you you are aware of it, but I was blessed in in great detail in a capability of being prepared prepared in physical prepared in mental. 

Prepared in psychological and prepared in fates and love. 

Through having cancer. 

And going through that with Dad. 

The night. 

That we found out. 

That I actually had cancer. 

It was we had got it in the daytime, and that night we were in bed together. 

And I kept saying I was crying. 

And I said, I don't know what to do. 

Dad said, well, just be quiet and still and think about it. 

He uplifted me at that time I said, Jesus, I didn't. 

Know what to. 

Do and he's still know that I'm with you and he said I am with you and he came into the room and said, I am with you. 

And I will walk with you through. 

That was a strong preparedness for the rest. 

Of my life. 

So what instruction would you give for love the. 

Lord your God 

No better way to be prepared. 

This has been. 

An absolute pleasure getting the time to sit down. 

I definitely appreciate you. 

Overcoming your your anxiety and sitting in front of a microphone. 

So thank you. 

Thank you for doing that. 

I didn't even know it was. 

And that's that's right. 

It just kind of disappears, right? 

It really does when you're just sitting in talking with family. 

To our listeners, I hope this time that we've shared might allow you some opportune that we've shared might allow you some opportunity to be gleaned from our experience, and maybe, maybe encourage you all to spend more time with family with with friends and and learn a bit more about each other. 

So there's one more thing, ma'am. 

I told you about it earlier as parting shots. 

I would offer that up first, up to you. 

I probably should have. 

Made it more commitment to uhm what we did as preparedness. 

And uhm. 

All I can remember is saying that. 

I love Lord UM. 

But I love my kids and my husband. 

And my grandkids and my great grandkids. 

And one of the things that you mentioned. 

And I am all and I am all. 

Four in more ways than you realize. 

When you and Kristen have Grandbabies stay close. 

And I don't mean. 

Or just spiritually stay close, yeah? 

And be in their lives. 

So for my my parting shot I would I. 

Would talk about a couple of different things. 

Through your experiences in the different recessions that you've been through in the different challenges in life. 

Financially, spiritually early on. 

Difficult relationships. 

I think you've you've given me. 

Any ideas on how I can help our audience prepare better? 

One of the one of the? 

Things dads always taught me and and you've just reiterated again. 

Totally spiritually. 

Just kind of building that that that strong foundation so that we as individuals. 

Can help others around us if we are strong. 

If we are prepared then. 

Then it's much more likely that we can help others, and I just think that's a that's a powerful lesson to take from. 

From our discussion today. 

So thank you for sharing that with us. 

Thank you for having me. 

Mom, thanks again so much for for joining me today on this episode of Gen X. 

Talking on being prepared. 

Remember this our loyal audience? 

Always be learning to respond well and. 

Recover faster until next time this is. 

Matt Marshall signing off.